First off, if you guys haven't read my last post, I suggest you do because this is a continuation of the post before it. At this point now, you're going to need a lot of professional help. You'll also be spending a lot of money, even $20,000 isn't enough in some cases.
My best advice is that you shouldn't really waste you're money, unless you really really really want it bad. Most people I know realize that it's not worth it when it's far too late. That being said, lets talk about the big boys of aftermarket car products.
This picture is a forged internal set. These will allow you to push your cars power probably up to 4 or 5 times without you having to worry about a piston flying out of your hood and ending your cars life, or perhaps your own.
My best advice is that you shouldn't really waste you're money, unless you really really really want it bad. Most people I know realize that it's not worth it when it's far too late. That being said, lets talk about the big boys of aftermarket car products.
Aftermarket Engine Internals & Strokers: The engines internals is composed of 3 main parts:
- Pistons
- Rods
- Crankshaft
briancrower.com From the top: Crankshaft, pistons, rods |
A stroked engine is the same as buying these aftermarket internals, except you would buy over sized pistons, and grind (STROKE) your cylinder walls to accommodate the bigger pistons. This creates more displacement (bigger engine) therefore allowing more fuel, which creates more combustible energy, hence more horsepower. Stroked engines are more difficult to tune because you have to adjust to the change in displacement, which requires very professional people that charge a lot of money, maybe around $2,000 just for a computer tune. The price of a set like this one can range from $3,000-$15,0000+. Usually the bigger the engine, the more expensive the parts are going to be. This set in the picture costs $10,000, and is for a 4.4 liter engine.
Turbocharger/Supercharger & Turbocharger/Supercharger Kits: This is considered the holy grail of all the tuning parts. These usually give you the highest power increase per part than anything else you could possibly buy. Turbos and superchargers are systems of forced induction, which is basically a mechanical system that forces more air into the cylinder, hence more fuel, hence more power. They both do the same thing essentially, but they do it in two different ways. A turbo uses the exhaust flow of your car to spin a turbine that pushes more air into the car, while a superchargers source of energy comes from the spinning motion of the engine itself. Both have their ups and downs, I will leave those details to be in my next post. The size of their turbines determines the power output, but there are pros and cons to both large and small turbines. To see what's best for your car, you will have to talk to a professional, or let me know what kind of car you have and I'd be happy to help you.
You can buy a turbo or supercharger by itself, but unfortunately they require many extra parts in order for them to be able to function. That is why many tuning companies provide turbo or supercharger kits. Be wary of bad or incomplete kits, so make sure you gets yours from a reputable company.
Built Block: A built block is basically an engine built from scratch, ready to be abused with whatever you want to add on to it. These engines will usually start off as what your car engine was, and they are taken apart, inspected, and put back together with the best quality parts the company can provide. Some blocks are stroked, and some are just ported wherever possible, but they should always have completely forged internals. They are usually sold as short blocks, or long blocks. The difference between the two is that the short block does not include the engines head or heads. The heads contain the camshaft, valves, spark plug, and are usually situated right on top of an engines cylinders. There are many companies that make built blocks, and they will usually specialize in only car brand or two.
Before I conclude, I should mention that there are still hundreds of products and things you can do to make your car go faster. If I chose to mention them all it would take a lifetime. Things like larger fuel injectors, ported heads, larger valves, better clutch plates, differentials, intercoolers, weight reduction, larger tires, and short throw shifters, will aid in making your car go faster. These are only things i could think of off the top of my head right now, so you can imagine how long the list is. If anyone has any questions about any part, don't hesitate, I'd be glad to help.
aacorvette.com/superchargers/ Vortech Supercharger |
You can buy a turbo or supercharger by itself, but unfortunately they require many extra parts in order for them to be able to function. That is why many tuning companies provide turbo or supercharger kits. Be wary of bad or incomplete kits, so make sure you gets yours from a reputable company.
atpturbo.com Garrett Turbocharger |
turbomagazine.com Average Turbo kit |
Built Block: A built block is basically an engine built from scratch, ready to be abused with whatever you want to add on to it. These engines will usually start off as what your car engine was, and they are taken apart, inspected, and put back together with the best quality parts the company can provide. Some blocks are stroked, and some are just ported wherever possible, but they should always have completely forged internals. They are usually sold as short blocks, or long blocks. The difference between the two is that the short block does not include the engines head or heads. The heads contain the camshaft, valves, spark plug, and are usually situated right on top of an engines cylinders. There are many companies that make built blocks, and they will usually specialize in only car brand or two.
Picture rights to rallysportdirect.com Cosworth Long Block (Boxer engine) |
Dear Blogger,
ReplyDeletei have a 2003 VW Golf. Engine: 2.8L V6, generating new 220horses. Gear: 6 Speed Manual. All Stock (so far).
In order to make it a faster Car i had the following Questions:
Q1: Turbo charge or Supercharge?
Q2: Should play around with the suspension,making it firmer, considering the short wheel base in order to make it handle the power better?
Q3:Adding a Turbo or a Supercharger, does that mean having to change the headers and exhaust system?
thank you for your help.
Meshaal
Hello Meshaal, thanks for reading my blog.
DeleteA1. Volkswagen has always used turbos in their cars, so I would suggest the turbo route because it will be easier to tune. A Garrett GT28 or GT30 would both work great, or for something a bit cheaper, the Blouch 2.0XT-R or 2.5XT-R would be great too. These turbos are capable of producing more than double the power you already have if the motor can handle it.
A2. I wouldn't consider it necessary to put aftermarket suspension unless you're planning on going to racing tracks. A slightly wider and sportier set of tires should be all you need for daily driving. The Golf is a naturally light car so it already has great handling from my understanding.
A3. You should actually be thinking of changing your stock exhaust and headers long before you think about a turbocharger, so the answer is yes. It is possible to add a turbo without an aftermarket exhaust and headers but your powertrain will have a hard time Breathing. You will also need an uppipe and downpipe for a turbo.
If there's anything else I can help you with please let me know.
Why have you not mentioned camshafts?
ReplyDeleteAnd what is better a turbo or supercharger?
Hello indesigner,
ReplyDeleteThat's a great question actually, I should have mentioned camshafts too. They're great for increasing hp numbers, but you have to make sure that when you buy an aftermarket camshaft, you have to dedicate yourself to either your Turbo/supercharged setup or your NA(Naturally Aspirated)setup, camshafts can't be efficient at both. And also, depending on your car you can end up disabling your variable valve timing, so make sure that's what you want. I will be posting up a supercharger vs turbocharger blog post soon to answer that question in detail.
I have a BMW 535 with the 3.5 litre inline six. I am wondering if it's worth putting a turbo on it to squeeze as much power as I can out of the stock motor, or if I should do an engine swap to the 4.4 litre V8 to get the power I'm looking for?
ReplyDeleteHello Bimmer535,
DeleteIf its the better price you're looking for, I would definitely go with the v8 as opposed to the turbo. If you go with the turbo setup, you'll need:
Turbo ($2,000)
Intercooler ($1,000+)
Exhaust, downpipe, and uppipe ($2,000+)
Blow-off valve and wastegate ($1,000)
Fuel injectors (potentially) ($700+)
Aftermarket ECU ($300+)
Boost controller ($100+)
Turbo inlet ($350+)
Tune ($2,000+)
Installation in Canada at a rate of $90 an hour would probably be around $600+. So overall you're looking to spend somewhere around $10,000. You can probably find a used v8 engine with its designated transmission (which is preferable) for somewhere around $5,000. I would still strongly suggest you ask your mechanic what kind of complications your specific vehicle model might face if you want an engine swap, because usually its quite a complicated procedure, especially when you have a German car like BMW given their reputation for their electronic malfunctions.